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		<title>Comment on Sticky Creativity by Mayank</title>
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		<author>Mayank</author>
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		<description>Hey, this is simply great. I agree what you have said here.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Sticky Creativity by shubham</title>
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		<author>shubham</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 01:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An email conversation with Sarah over 'Sticky Creativity'. 


Dear Shubham,

I have been thinking about this one today. And although I am now at the end of my day and too tired to think or write coherently, I had a few things I wanted to say and a few comments I wanted to make...

'Creativity' is enabled by a series of 'steps', each one giving rise to the next phase of development. Your example is 'creativity' in a microcosm. 

New things are created on the foundations of older things: a great literary work could be said to have its foundation way back in the early formation (creation) of language; a great painter must acknowledge the role played by the 'creations' of earlier masters; a musical masterpiece owes elements of its 'creation' to music that has gone before. 

Your story also highlights the role of destruction in 'creation'. Your example basically began as a small act of 'vandalism' that became a launching pad for a series of 'creative' acts, yet creation is impermanent and the destructive nature of humans took over to destroy what had been 'created' in your elevator! 

'Creation' can be looked at as a series of building up and tearing down; replacing old with new, yet at the same time retaining, building upon and learning from certain elements of the old. 

Yet at the same time I am compelled to ask a couple of questions... 

Are humans naturally 'creative' or is 'creativity' thrust on us by environment and circumstances? 

Do we need to differentiate between the traditional 'creations' in the world of art and the type of 'creation'/adaptations to our environment you talk about in your piece - is it all 'creation'? 

And finally; what is it in mankind that drives us to destroy the creations of others?

Sarah. 
Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Zain Zambia


Sarah, 

Well said...
1. Are humans naturally 'creative' or is 'creativity' thrust on us by environment and circumstances? 
Both I shall say. Without creativity life shall be too stale. If you had to take life as it is without any chance of contributing, the zeal for curiosity will disappear. It will be like a television show where you are not allowed to modify the environment in any way. Participating assures that we are alive and also lets us contribute towards another possibility. So I shall say not only all humans, but all living beings are naturally creative. Instance, Earthworms recycling earth, is very creative indeed. Though it might not be voluntary in our time frame, but the earthworm facilitated the process by being a part of the chain. 
When times are sanguine, we are creative by choice. India now is coming up with brilliant shades in creativity with Entrepreneurs, Social Workers, modicums that might not have been possible a few years back. Prosperity has made it possible. However, that doesn't mean Iraq doesn't have such examples. Kids selling cigarettes and porn to troops is a need identified. Creativity could be anything that where I can 'pull up a few unrelated resources together give it a new face. A painting, a business opportunity...anything.' Life is fair to almost every living thing, except ofcourse those who say that life has been unfair. :) 

2. Do we need to differentiate between the traditional 'creations' in the world of art and the type of 'creation'/adaptations to our environment you talk about in your piece - is it all 'creation'? 
There are two versions in creativity. The former one is more evolved, carved to our senses. The latter one might be crass or raw, more for utility. Some people have evolved in observing and understanding what appeals him the most and therefore undertakes a course to modify the subject. Over the years his practice brings results that are appealing not only to him, but others as well. We can say his journey is like the 'journey of language', becoming more expressive everyday. 
In contrast, people who are not in traditional stream of arts are equally creative, but th effort is erratic. They consider their contribution a piece of art, while the rest of the world doesn't take notice. The effort in itself might not have the intentions to appeal to the rest of the world, it might be a very personal gratification. It is like a person surviving on this planet alone...what kind of an artist will he make if his work of art didn't require any approval? 

3. And finally; what is it in mankind that drives us to destroy the creations of others?
A short term gratification, a possibility. 
a. For instance a trader might see an opportunity in revealing to the Nazis where some of the Jews are hiding and therefore facilitate in the destruction of life. 
b. Religious pagans see an opportunity in defaming and defiling M.F. Hussain’s (a very famous painter's) works. The opportunity is itself some creative/destructive efforts arising out of another creative/destructive work. So I can't agree more when you say, 
'New things are created on the foundations of older things: a great literary work could be said to have its foundation way back in the early formation (creation) of language; a great painter must acknowledge the role played by the 'creations' of earlier masters; a musical masterpiece owes elements of its 'creation' to music that has gone before.'
c. Iraq was a possibility seen by some people in power in United States. The key unrelated resources were: Oil, Control, Alien Territory. Every time a few distant parameters are coming together, it's a new possibility. 
d. Every lion in Africa and tiger in India reeks with the possibility of being poached. This time the poachers are being destructive for the world, but creative for themselves when they dodge the police, security and successfully poach the species. 

CONCLUDING, EFFORTS THAT FOLLOW A POSSIBILITY IS LABELED 'CREATIVE' WHEN IT'S IN SYNC WITH THE REST OF THE WORLD, IT'S DESTRUCTIVE WHEN IT ISN'T. IN BOTH THE CASES HOWEVER A CREATIVE MIND IS AT WORK.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An email conversation with Sarah over &#8216;Sticky Creativity&#8217;. </p>
<p>Dear Shubham,</p>
<p>I have been thinking about this one today. And although I am now at the end of my day and too tired to think or write coherently, I had a few things I wanted to say and a few comments I wanted to make&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8216;Creativity&#8217; is enabled by a series of &#8217;steps&#8217;, each one giving rise to the next phase of development. Your example is &#8216;creativity&#8217; in a microcosm. </p>
<p>New things are created on the foundations of older things: a great literary work could be said to have its foundation way back in the early formation (creation) of language; a great painter must acknowledge the role played by the &#8216;creations&#8217; of earlier masters; a musical masterpiece owes elements of its &#8216;creation&#8217; to music that has gone before. </p>
<p>Your story also highlights the role of destruction in &#8216;creation&#8217;. Your example basically began as a small act of &#8216;vandalism&#8217; that became a launching pad for a series of &#8216;creative&#8217; acts, yet creation is impermanent and the destructive nature of humans took over to destroy what had been &#8216;created&#8217; in your elevator! </p>
<p>&#8216;Creation&#8217; can be looked at as a series of building up and tearing down; replacing old with new, yet at the same time retaining, building upon and learning from certain elements of the old. </p>
<p>Yet at the same time I am compelled to ask a couple of questions&#8230; </p>
<p>Are humans naturally &#8216;creative&#8217; or is &#8216;creativity&#8217; thrust on us by environment and circumstances? </p>
<p>Do we need to differentiate between the traditional &#8216;creations&#8217; in the world of art and the type of &#8216;creation&#8217;/adaptations to our environment you talk about in your piece - is it all &#8216;creation&#8217;? </p>
<p>And finally; what is it in mankind that drives us to destroy the creations of others?</p>
<p>Sarah.<br />
Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Zain Zambia</p>
<p>Sarah, </p>
<p>Well said&#8230;<br />
1. Are humans naturally &#8216;creative&#8217; or is &#8216;creativity&#8217; thrust on us by environment and circumstances?<br />
Both I shall say. Without creativity life shall be too stale. If you had to take life as it is without any chance of contributing, the zeal for curiosity will disappear. It will be like a television show where you are not allowed to modify the environment in any way. Participating assures that we are alive and also lets us contribute towards another possibility. So I shall say not only all humans, but all living beings are naturally creative. Instance, Earthworms recycling earth, is very creative indeed. Though it might not be voluntary in our time frame, but the earthworm facilitated the process by being a part of the chain.<br />
When times are sanguine, we are creative by choice. India now is coming up with brilliant shades in creativity with Entrepreneurs, Social Workers, modicums that might not have been possible a few years back. Prosperity has made it possible. However, that doesn&#8217;t mean Iraq doesn&#8217;t have such examples. Kids selling cigarettes and porn to troops is a need identified. Creativity could be anything that where I can &#8216;pull up a few unrelated resources together give it a new face. A painting, a business opportunity&#8230;anything.&#8217; Life is fair to almost every living thing, except ofcourse those who say that life has been unfair. <img src='http://shubhambasu.com/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>2. Do we need to differentiate between the traditional &#8216;creations&#8217; in the world of art and the type of &#8216;creation&#8217;/adaptations to our environment you talk about in your piece - is it all &#8216;creation&#8217;?<br />
There are two versions in creativity. The former one is more evolved, carved to our senses. The latter one might be crass or raw, more for utility. Some people have evolved in observing and understanding what appeals him the most and therefore undertakes a course to modify the subject. Over the years his practice brings results that are appealing not only to him, but others as well. We can say his journey is like the &#8216;journey of language&#8217;, becoming more expressive everyday.<br />
In contrast, people who are not in traditional stream of arts are equally creative, but th effort is erratic. They consider their contribution a piece of art, while the rest of the world doesn&#8217;t take notice. The effort in itself might not have the intentions to appeal to the rest of the world, it might be a very personal gratification. It is like a person surviving on this planet alone&#8230;what kind of an artist will he make if his work of art didn&#8217;t require any approval? </p>
<p>3. And finally; what is it in mankind that drives us to destroy the creations of others?<br />
A short term gratification, a possibility.<br />
a. For instance a trader might see an opportunity in revealing to the Nazis where some of the Jews are hiding and therefore facilitate in the destruction of life.<br />
b. Religious pagans see an opportunity in defaming and defiling M.F. Hussain’s (a very famous painter&#8217;s) works. The opportunity is itself some creative/destructive efforts arising out of another creative/destructive work. So I can&#8217;t agree more when you say,<br />
&#8216;New things are created on the foundations of older things: a great literary work could be said to have its foundation way back in the early formation (creation) of language; a great painter must acknowledge the role played by the &#8216;creations&#8217; of earlier masters; a musical masterpiece owes elements of its &#8216;creation&#8217; to music that has gone before.&#8217;<br />
c. Iraq was a possibility seen by some people in power in United States. The key unrelated resources were: Oil, Control, Alien Territory. Every time a few distant parameters are coming together, it&#8217;s a new possibility.<br />
d. Every lion in Africa and tiger in India reeks with the possibility of being poached. This time the poachers are being destructive for the world, but creative for themselves when they dodge the police, security and successfully poach the species. </p>
<p>CONCLUDING, EFFORTS THAT FOLLOW A POSSIBILITY IS LABELED &#8216;CREATIVE&#8217; WHEN IT&#8217;S IN SYNC WITH THE REST OF THE WORLD, IT&#8217;S DESTRUCTIVE WHEN IT ISN&#8217;T. IN BOTH THE CASES HOWEVER A CREATIVE MIND IS AT WORK.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sticky Creativity by shubho</title>
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		<author>shubho</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 02:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Superb. Won't forget this for a long time.</description>
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		<title>Comment on LSD what a dazzle!!! by Charru</title>
		<link>http://shubhambasu.com/wp/2010/03/21/lsd-what-a-dazzle/#comment-3324</link>
		<author>Charru</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 13:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LSD was a movie which you would like or dislike completely, no mid path....i loved it...Dibakar dealt with the real stuff that is life in a no nonsense manner...excellent work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LSD was a movie which you would like or dislike completely, no mid path&#8230;.i loved it&#8230;Dibakar dealt with the real stuff that is life in a no nonsense manner&#8230;excellent work!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Pick your therapist carefully by depression counselling</title>
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		<author>depression counselling</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2010 23:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;depression counselling...&lt;/strong&gt;

I don’t normally comment on blogs but your post was a real call to action. Thank you for a great read....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>depression counselling&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>I don’t normally comment on blogs but your post was a real call to action. Thank you for a great read&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Championing Cows by Warner Olivo</title>
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		<author>Warner Olivo</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2010 07:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sage Vyasa could not get the peace because he revised the theoretical message of God and did not memorize the practical aspect of it. He got perfect peace when Bhagavatam was composed in which the practical aspect was described. Gopikas practiced the message of Gita in Toto. The devotion to God should be one way traffic. Krishna married Radha secretly (Gandharva) and left her along with other Gopikas after enjoying them for two years in Rasaleela. No girl will tolerate her husband enjoying other women with her knowledge. The love of Radha to Krishna was not affected by such bad behavior of Krishna. Krishna increased the power of dosage of the test. Krishna left Radha and Gopikas, went to Dwaraka and married 16000 girls. Dwaraka was like a foreign country crossing the sea. If this is the case of the marriage of today, the girl fights against the groom with the help of the courts and women associations. But the behavior of Radha and Gopikas towards Krishna was unimaginable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sage Vyasa could not get the peace because he revised the theoretical message of God and did not memorize the practical aspect of it. He got perfect peace when Bhagavatam was composed in which the practical aspect was described. Gopikas practiced the message of Gita in Toto. The devotion to God should be one way traffic. Krishna married Radha secretly (Gandharva) and left her along with other Gopikas after enjoying them for two years in Rasaleela. No girl will tolerate her husband enjoying other women with her knowledge. The love of Radha to Krishna was not affected by such bad behavior of Krishna. Krishna increased the power of dosage of the test. Krishna left Radha and Gopikas, went to Dwaraka and married 16000 girls. Dwaraka was like a foreign country crossing the sea. If this is the case of the marriage of today, the girl fights against the groom with the help of the courts and women associations. But the behavior of Radha and Gopikas towards Krishna was unimaginable.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Pick your therapist carefully by Noah</title>
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		<author>Noah</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 01:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Got problem with &lt;a href="http://www.psychocafe.pl" rel="nofollow"&gt;personality disorder&lt;/a&gt;, i have seen Polish forum for such people, there is english section go to &lt;a href="http://www.psychocafe.pl" rel="nofollow"&gt;www.psychocafe.pl&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Got problem with <a href="http://www.psychocafe.pl" rel="nofollow">personality disorder</a>, i have seen Polish forum for such people, there is english section go to <a href="http://www.psychocafe.pl" rel="nofollow">www.psychocafe.pl</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Amar Singh&#8217;s journey (artist-&gt;politician-&gt;political artist-&gt;artist) by sarah</title>
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		<author>sarah</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 12:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is rare to find a human who doesn't want to be loved and adored... as Mark Twain said...
Love is the irresistible desire to be irresistibly desired.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is rare to find a human who doesn&#8217;t want to be loved and adored&#8230; as Mark Twain said&#8230;<br />
Love is the irresistible desire to be irresistibly desired.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Amar Singh&#8217;s journey (artist-&gt;politician-&gt;political artist-&gt;artist) by Charru</title>
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		<author>Charru</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 07:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah Shubham, each one of us wants to be loved...that is one common desire we all have and perhaps also to love others, though the latter gets overpowered by the images and opinions we create of people and we often tend to hide those feelings somewhere in the closet.
Wish we could hold back our opinions and just start loving the creation that God has created!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah Shubham, each one of us wants to be loved&#8230;that is one common desire we all have and perhaps also to love others, though the latter gets overpowered by the images and opinions we create of people and we often tend to hide those feelings somewhere in the closet.<br />
Wish we could hold back our opinions and just start loving the creation that God has created!</p>
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		<author>Mamta</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 05:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good to read..i didn't knew Amar Singh wanted to do movies..
True, that most of us have some hidden desires waiting to be fulfilled..but is it possible for everyone to find a friend like Amitabh Bachchan??
I wish I could meet Shahrukh Khan someday ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good to read..i didn&#8217;t knew Amar Singh wanted to do movies..<br />
True, that most of us have some hidden desires waiting to be fulfilled..but is it possible for everyone to find a friend like Amitabh Bachchan??<br />
I wish I could meet Shahrukh Khan someday <img src='http://shubhambasu.com/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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